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Looking at this from la la land which is just as a useful place as la la winter storms, the weekend looked okay, even warm. with general zonal flow.  Well, closer in and to the start of skill time, this has gone to heck in a hand basket. Different interactions with a northern stream closed low and the southeastern trof has made for zero run to run continuity.

In a catch-22 in which rain would be useful, is it a day, is it two? Is the GFS on something as Dr. Don't Worry?  Time will tell this week.  It hardly seems like the unofficial start of summer weekend goes off smoothly.

 

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1 hour ago, Rainshadow said:

The last two Memorial Day weekends, 2021 was a classic.

 

The high of 53 on 5/30 was 6 degrees cooler than the previous record low max for the date. That is also the 3rd coolest max temp that late in the season behind:

49 degrees - 6/2/1907

52 degrees - 6/6/1894

 

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Both the GFS and Euro have this retrograding upper-level low for later this week. Besides causing model havoc it also makes it more likely we'll see below-average temps depending on the evolution. At least it will be better than 53...hopefully lol

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5 hours ago, ACwx said:

Both the GFS and Euro have this retrograding upper-level low for later this week. Besides causing model havoc it also makes it more likely we'll see below-average temps depending on the evolution. At least it will be better than 53...hopefully lol

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The best part about today’s 12z Euro it is a week away, not a day away.

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22 hours ago, Rainshadow said:

Looking at this from la la land which is just as a useful place as la la winter storms, the weekend looked okay, even warm. with general zonal flow.  Well, closer in and to the start of skill time, this has gone to heck in a hand basket. Different interactions with a northern stream closed low and the southeastern trof has made for zero run to run continuity.

In a catch-22 in which rain would be useful, is it a day, is it two? Is the GFS on something as Dr. Don't Worry?  Time will tell this week.  It hardly seems like the unofficial start of summer weekend goes off smoothly.

 

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00z run this morning was better than 12z yesterday with less northern stream closed low involvement and more of a Rex Block configuration. Of course, 12 hours later the runs will be very different again. 

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Lol I hope Delmarva beaches good on Memorial Day weekend. Would hate to have to cancel plans for that lol. Problem is have to cancel by end of tomorrow to not have to pay cancellation fee. Sweatshirts may need anyways at times. Went to Bethany last year a few weeks prior to Memorial Day (around May 13/14/15 timeframe in 2022), and the weather was a total disaster of rain. That's when the erosion stuff started at the Delmarva beaches. Memorial Day weather's hit or miss that's for certain. Also, I apologize if I'm posting on the wrong thread. Feel free to move to another thread if need be haha.

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2 hours ago, andrewmo.tennisman said:

Lol I hope Delmarva beaches good on Memorial Day weekend. Would hate to have to cancel plans for that lol. Problem is have to cancel by end of tomorrow to not have to pay cancellation fee. Sweatshirts may need anyways at times. Went to Bethany last year a few weeks prior to Memorial Day (around May 13/14/15 timeframe in 2022), and the weather was a total disaster of rain. That's when the erosion stuff started at the Delmarva beaches. Memorial Day weather's hit or miss that's for certain. Also, I apologize if I'm posting on the wrong thread. Feel free to move to another thread if need be haha.

You posted in right spot. It looks better today than yesterday. Unfortunately I don’t think the jury is going to reach a decision by tomorrow. Being south of PHL adds more uncertainty into the equation.

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The Canadian is still close, but last night’s model runs do not have interaction again between northern stream closed low and one over the SE Conus. The Euro’s southern closed low becomes a disassembled mess. So for now only the GFS (did not look at UK) has rain chances on Sunday and Monday, the rest Monday. Overall better than they were with that dreadful 12z run from Sunday.

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15 hours ago, Rainshadow said:

You posted in right spot. It looks better today than yesterday. Unfortunately I don’t think the jury is going to reach a decision by tomorrow. Being south of PHL adds more uncertainty into the equation.

Thanks. We decided to cancel it, we got our full money back since did it before tonight. I typically would say we still go, but just seeing or hearing the two words "stalled front" is the ultimate red flag regardless of anything else I see. Hersheypark or Gettysburg look like better weather for Friday anyways. We're going to Bethany in August, from past history, August weather at the beaches seems consistently better even with any storm severe or not that comes through.

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8 hours ago, Allsnow said:

@Rainshadow let’s say we miss on the rain for memorial weekend, pattern looks wet to start June? 

I'll take a deeper look tomorrow morning.  We just came back from the Maryland Eastern Shore.  From what little I saw today, it didn't look that great.  

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It's like living in coastal southern California

Today
Sunny, with a high near 80. Light and variable wind becoming west 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon.
Tonight
Partly cloudy, with a low around 44. North wind around 15 mph. 
Thursday
Sunny, with a high near 70. North wind 10 to 15 mph.
Thursday Night
Mostly clear, with a low around 45. North wind around 5 mph.
Friday
Sunny, with a high near 73. North wind 5 to 10 mph.
Friday Night
Partly cloudy, with a low around 48.
Saturday
Mostly sunny, with a high near 77.
Saturday Night
Partly cloudy, with a low around 49.
Sunday
Mostly sunny, with a high near 79.
Sunday Night
Partly cloudy, with a low around 53.
Memorial Day
Mostly sunny, with a high near 80.
Monday Night
Partly cloudy, with a low around 55.
Tuesday
Mostly sunny, with a high near 82.
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2 minutes ago, Parsley said:

It's like living in coastal southern California

Today
Sunny, with a high near 80. Light and variable wind becoming west 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon.
Tonight
Partly cloudy, with a low around 44. North wind around 15 mph. 
Thursday
Sunny, with a high near 70. North wind 10 to 15 mph.
Thursday Night
Mostly clear, with a low around 45. North wind around 5 mph.
Friday
Sunny, with a high near 73. North wind 5 to 10 mph.
Friday Night
Partly cloudy, with a low around 48.
Saturday
Mostly sunny, with a high near 77.
Saturday Night
Partly cloudy, with a low around 49.
Sunday
Mostly sunny, with a high near 79.
Sunday Night
Partly cloudy, with a low around 53.
Memorial Day
Mostly sunny, with a high near 80.
Monday Night
Partly cloudy, with a low around 55.
Tuesday
Mostly sunny, with a high near 82.

We've got the smoke also. However 06 gfs keeps the weekend uncertain. Overall weekend looks a little drearier on modeling overnight.

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Now that the models have gone the what northern stream closed low route, places north like Tomboland and the Catskills are looking better for a spectacular weekend. Down here as far as pcpn goes (00z runs) Delmarva still gets in the mix for either Sunday (GFS) or Monday (Euro). Canadian and UKMET look totally suppressed. ICON wants to give the GFS a run for its wet money.

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The ridge trends have been stronger and well positioned, geps below as an example.  Dry air in my opinion should win this battle from Philly north.  If the Euro is correct, which has the closed ridge overtop us, it will struggle to rain at VA Beach.  I'll split the difference and say @Debeaches sees some drops, @ACwx gets scraped, and @Parsley falls asleep on his patio every night.

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1 hour ago, susqushawn said:

The ridge trends have been stronger and well positioned, geps below as an example.  Dry air in my opinion should win this battle from Philly north.  If the Euro is correct, which has the closed ridge overtop us, it will struggle to rain at VA Beach.  I'll split the difference and say @Debeaches sees some drops, @ACwx gets scraped, and @Parsley falls asleep on his patio every night.

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Yea, you aren’t blasting rain into your area with that h5 look. 

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While the 00z surface low position has not changed much, at 8 pm Sunday the Rex Ridge protection is not as strong as it was on the 12z run. As a result all models (except a tickle by the Euro) bring rain into Delmarva on Sunday and/or Monday.

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In terms of rain, Sunday is looking more salvageable. even in our part of Delmarva.  If the precip is going to leak north to PHL's latitude, Memorial Day itself remains the day.  Nothing new about the general 500mb pattern not locking in until day 5.

 

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5 hours ago, Rainshadow said:

In terms of rain, Sunday is looking more salvageable. even in our part of Delmarva.  If the precip is going to leak north to PHL's latitude, Memorial Day itself remains the day.  Nothing new about the general 500mb pattern not locking in until day 5.

 

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Should include for beach locales, that northeast wind coming around the low to the south probably going to keep it pretty chilly, maybe some fog too?

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19 hours ago, tombo82685 said:

Should include for beach locales, that northeast wind coming around the low to the south probably going to keep it pretty chilly, maybe some fog too?

Yeah not my ideal beach days going forward into Memorial Day.  Water is still cold, onshore flow, getting windier, especially south of ACY.

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