cbelke Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 About time for a drought thread to pop-up. Just saw a camel in my backyard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rainshadow Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 17 hours ago, cbelke said: About time for a drought thread to pop-up. Just saw a camel in my backyard. Nice of you to start one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACwx Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Decided to pull the U.S. Drought Monitor data into Excel for an easy reference this summer in case the drought continues to worsen. I narrowed it down to the Mt. Holly CWA. Data goes back to 2000. 1st image is the 10 most recent weeks, just started to get into the Abnormal category. 2nd image is the "worst-case scenario" of highest drought index values. 2002 must have been a rough year only time in the dataset where we got into the Exceptional category. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ACwx said: Decided to pull the U.S. Drought Monitor data into Excel for an easy reference this summer in case the drought continues to worsen. I narrowed it down to the Mt. Holly CWA. Data goes back to 2000. 1st image is the 10 most recent weeks, just started to get into the Abnormal category. 2nd image is the "worst-case scenario" of highest drought index values. 2002 must have been a rough year only time in the dataset where we got into the Exceptional category. My memory fades but that was the last serious drought I recall. If not for Floyd, it would have been 1960s esque here around 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, Rainshadow6.6 said: My memory fades but that was the last serious drought I recall. If not for Floyd, it would have been 1960s esque here around 2000. Wasn’t 2003 pretty bad or somewhere around that year. It was a fall into spring one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, tombo82685 said: Wasn’t 2003 pretty bad or somewhere around that year. It was a fall into spring one. 2001? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 2012 & 2016 have been the only two years since to be below 40" in PHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoWreck Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 It just coughed some hail out for a moment, odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Getting some rain now from a pop up shower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbs Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Our summers have been getting wetter and we have had 4 wet summers in a row. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Chubbs said: Our summers have been getting wetter and we have had 4 wet summers in a row. Due for a dry one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel_kurtz Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Rainshadow6.6 said: My memory fades but that was the last serious drought I recall. If not for Floyd, it would have been 1960s esque here around 2000. Locally 10" in the bucket over the 30 days preceding Floyd so we had the reprieve regardless but yeah if not for SEPT 1999 & SEPT 2000 you could have been looking at 6 consecutive years of below average precip. As mentioned the last actual drought was NOV 2001-NOV 2002 & it was severe. https://www.state.nj.us/drbc/hydrological/drought/ From a drought monitor standpoint the maps looked looked like this, LOL just a little different than the current map. Despite reservoir storage levels above drought threshold a drought emergency was declared during the summer of 1999 primarily due to the salt line advancing near PHL. Bottom line is based on DRBC criteria we are nowhere near even drought watch status let alone an actual drought. All reservoirs are at 100% capacity, river streamflow is normal & the salt line is right where is supposed to be this time of year. Once again for frame of reference the combined usable capacity of these reservoirs dropped to 25% during DEC 2001. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 17 hours ago, Rainshadow6.6 said: 2001? Yes, thats the one. I knew it was somewhere in the early 2000s after the Floyd one. Believe that one carried into winter of 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 54 minutes ago, tombo82685 said: Yes, thats the one. I knew it was somewhere in the early 200s after the Floyd one. Believe that one carried into winter of 2002 Carried all the way into the start of that winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 10 hours ago, colonel_kurtz said: Locally 10" in the bucket over the 30 days preceding Floyd so we had the reprieve regardless but yeah if not for SEPT 1999 & SEPT 2000 you could have been looking at 6 consecutive years of below average precip. As mentioned the last actual drought was NOV 2001-NOV 2002 & it was severe. https://www.state.nj.us/drbc/hydrological/drought/ From a drought monitor standpoint the maps looked looked like this, LOL just a little different than the current map. Despite reservoir storage levels above drought threshold a drought emergency was declared during the summer of 1999 primarily due to the salt line advancing near PHL. Bottom line is based on DRBC criteria we are nowhere near even drought watch status let alone an actual drought. All reservoirs are at 100% capacity, river streamflow is normal & the salt line is right where is supposed to be this time of year. Once again for frame of reference the combined usable capacity of these reservoirs dropped to 25% during DEC 2001. I remember the heated discussions in the mid 2000s when the Delaware was flooding regularly for a couple of years to never have the reservoirs at capacity. I am glad it has either been rescinded or ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbelke Posted May 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, Rainshadow6.6 said: I remember the heated discussions in the mid 2000s when the Delaware was flooding regularly for a couple of years to never have the reservoirs at capacity. I am glad it has either been rescinded or ignored. I remember a number of discussions on that and one of the theories was the amount of housing developments happening within a few miles of the river and the deforestation was allowing the water to run off in to the river since there was nothing slowing/blocking the run off. This run off was supposedly one of the causes for the increased flooding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, cbelke said: I remember a number of discussions on that and one of the theories was the amount of housing developments happening within a few miles of the river and the deforestation was allowing the water to run off in to the river since there was nothing slowing/blocking the run off. This run off was supposedly one of the causes for the increased flooding. Living near an ocean, river or having a basement all have two scenarios. There are those that have flooded and those that have yet to flood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel_kurtz Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Rainshadow6.6 said: Living near an ocean, river or having a basement all have two scenarios. There are those that have flooded and those that have yet to flood. Dry spring, especially during the 1st half of March, was a huge saving grace for immediate river dwellers & businesses. If ever there was a year poised for spring flooding on the Delaware it was this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 Year to date map for NJ. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 Euro isn't advertising much rain in the next ten days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACwx Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 Not in our region, but I saw someone on Twitter post this shot from North Dakota. Apparently they are in a Category 3 (Extreme) drought and the green patch here is where there was a huge snow bank over the winter... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 CFP timing this weekend stinks as of the moment. Previous week on left,; current week on right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACwx Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Mt. Holly had a nice graphic this morning showing our current dry streak vs. the longest in history. However I saw a comment asking how the current streak ranks against past Mays instead of year-round. 9 out of the top 10 dry streaks occurred in late summer or fall, with only 2001 being in spring. Also we are currently on pace for the 4th driest May on record dating back to 1872. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, ACwx said: Mt. Holly had a nice graphic this morning showing our current dry streak vs. the longest in history. However I saw a comment asking how the current streak ranks against past Mays instead of year-round. 9 out of the top 10 dry streaks occurred in late summer or fall, with only 2001 being in spring. Also we are currently on pace for the 4th driest May on record dating back to 1872. Very rare for spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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