Rainshadow Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Thread title caveat, I know today is the only day we are in enhanced threat for severe, more about greater than climo thunder chances, than type of thunder. ...Ohio to New Jersey... Convection and associated cloud cover is progged to be ongoing across portions of the risk area at the start of the period, ahead of a surface low moving slowly east across the Lake Erie vicinity. The convection should move eastward/diminish through midday, allowing some heating/destabilization to occur -- fueling new storm development, likely by early afternoon. Storms development may be focused by the presence of remnant outflow associated with the earlier storms, though coherence -- and location -- of this possible boundary remains uncertain, dependent upon evolution of the ongoing convection. With fast/weakly veering west to west-northwesterly flow with height progged atop the region, clusters of organized/fast-moving storms are expected to evolve. At this time, damaging winds would appear to be the primary severe risk, along with hail. Tornado threat should be somewhat limited by only modest veering of the flow with height, but ample low-level speed shear suggests low-probability tornado risk during the afternoon. With regeneration of successive bands of storms possible, within the west-northwesterly flow regime, severe risk will likely linger through the evening and possibly into the overnight hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 IMO this is pretty much the start of our severe weather season. Thru the end of July it is tough to have ongoing thunder in the afternoon or first half of the evening and not have at least one go severe. June from what I remember was the absolute best (or worst depending on your opinion) for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 And here we go.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshaffer526 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 0.07" from this morning's quick line, just about doubled our two-week rain total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishbri74 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rainshadow said: And here we go.... Moving through faster than I thought. Was thinking 9-11 time frame. Def some clearing behind it if this plows through. Guess we’ll know by 11-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, irishbri74 said: Moving through faster than I thought. Was thinking 9-11 time frame. Def some clearing behind it if this plows through. Guess we’ll know by 11-12. Plus Tom will remind us the days are pretty long now and there is plenty of time for air mass recovery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 I know this is kind of a captain obvious post, but just using the SigEff Tornado as a proxy for the time of the strongest storms, it is late this afternoon just in the warm sector. I saw model forecast dew points in the 70s, so if you are checking activity, make sure the dew points look representative. (Lack of) Shear not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbs Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 0.15", some partial clearing - 63F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshaffer526 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Dayton got hit really hard last night. https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/large-destructive-tornado-strikes-dayton-as-severe-storms-ravage-ohio/70008380 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbs Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, mshaffer526 said: Dayton got hit really hard last night. https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/large-destructive-tornado-strikes-dayton-as-severe-storms-ravage-ohio/70008380 Many tornadoes in Ill/Ind/OH with this sytem. https://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/190527_rpts.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlurker Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 So my wife says, as she's leaving for work, can you please take down the mini flags lining the street before it rains? 45 minutes later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishbri74 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, Chubbs said: Many tornadoes in Ill/Ind/OH with this sytem. https://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/190527_rpts.html Yea. I followed it as it unfolded. Big time debris ball showed up on radar , then again 55 mins later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishbri74 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 But back home, check out the 3k name for 21z in sepa. Have to wonder what that stuff out west of state college will do. Too early and we don’t recover enough, as well as cloud debris. Notice that our EML has survival bed a bit better than last event. (Bottom left of the sounding. 700-500mb LR @ 6.8°c/km Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishbri74 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 SPC update a little late this am (5 mins). We’ll see if they expand the enh risk edit. Think we just got upgraded to enhanced for all of EPA/SEPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishbri74 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Upgrade confirmed! With fast/weakly veering west to west-northwesterly flow with height progged atop the region, clusters of organized/fast-moving storms are expected to evolve. This could include splitting supercells, particularly before more linearly organized clusters/bow evolve. At this time, damaging winds would appear to be the primary severe risk, along with severe hail. Tornado threat should be somewhat limited by only modest veering of the flow with height, but ample low-level speed shear suggests at least some possibility for a tornado or two during the afternoon. With regeneration of successive bands of storms possible, within the west-northwesterly flow regime, severe risk will likely linger through the evening and possibly into the overnight hours. ..Guyer/Broyles.. 05/28/2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, irishbri74 said: Upgrade confirmed! With fast/weakly veering west to west-northwesterly flow with height progged atop the region, clusters of organized/fast-moving storms are expected to evolve. This could include splitting supercells, particularly before more linearly organized clusters/bow evolve. At this time, damaging winds would appear to be the primary severe risk, along with severe hail. Tornado threat should be somewhat limited by only modest veering of the flow with height, but ample low-level speed shear suggests at least some possibility for a tornado or two during the afternoon. With regeneration of successive bands of storms possible, within the west-northwesterly flow regime, severe risk will likely linger through the evening and possibly into the overnight hours. ..Guyer/Broyles.. 05/28/2019 I don't think I have seen an enhanced not surrounded by a slight before. 0.15" already today 2nd most we have had on any day since May 14th. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmister Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rainshadow said: I don't think I have seen an enhanced not surrounded by a slight before. 0.15" already today 2nd most we have had on any day since May 14th. I was thinking the same thing, but the SPC has since cleaned up their outlook graphic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankdp23 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Finished with .52" with the first batch here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbelke Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 .23" so far. Nothing even remotely severe out of the line this morning. May have sucked some life out of this afternoons storms as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishbri74 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Some clearing now showing up just to our west. Let’s see how far north and east it makes it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshaffer526 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Dews up from 52 this morning to 68.5 now. Steamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg ralls Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 As I mentioned in the general thunderstorms thread before I saw the dedicated thread to the Enhanced Risk: Poured all along Germantown Pike from Collegeville to Plymouth Meeting between 8-9 AM, so would that be more likely to inhibit severe development later or perhaps enhance it by setting up a boundary? Or is it really more dependent upon how much clearing happens over the next several hours? Still quite overcast here in Plymouth Meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmister Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0852.html 95% chance of tornado watch... Mesoscale Discussion 852 < Previous MD Next MD > Mesoscale Discussion 0852 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 1202 PM CDT Tue May 28 2019 Areas affected...portions of the Mid-Atlantic into the Northeast Concerning...Severe potential...Tornado Watch likely Valid 281702Z - 281900Z Probability of Watch Issuance...95 percent SUMMARY...Storms are expected to develop this afternoon and will likely become severe. Large hail, damaging wind gusts, and a few tornadoes are possible. A tornado watch will likely be issued in the next couple of hours. DISCUSSION...A belt of enhanced mid-level westerly flow of 50-70 knots is stretching across the Great Lakes into the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast. A shortwave trough embedded within this zonal flow currently entering the Great Lakes region will move eastward throughout the day helping to provide forcing for ascent and strengthen deep layer shear. A surface low is located just east-southeast of Buffalo, NY with a warm front stretching to the southeast through northeast PA and central NJ. This warm front should lift east-northeast with the surface low forecast to track generally eastward. The Cu field is becoming increasingly agitated within the warm sector and storms are likely to develop in the next couple of hours. Storms are likely to develop across west/central PA and move east-southeast during the afternoon and evening into portions of NJ/MD/DE/southern NY. Supercell development is likely and few storms may remain discrete. Low-level veering is better to south/east across the region, but flow/shear is stronger farther to the north. Large hail is possible given forecast MLCAPE of 1500-3000 J/kg and effective bulk shear of 35-50 knots. Additionally, strong synoptic winds and steepening low-level lapse rates, especially where strong insolation occurs, will increase the severe wind threat. Tornadoes are possible as well, especially for storms that exhibit more southeast movement, which will maximize SRH per observed/forecast soundings. ..Nauslar/Thompson.. 05/28/2019 ...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product... ATTN...WFO...OKX...PHI...BGM...AKQ...BUF...CTP...LWX...PBZ... CLE... LAT...LON 39767949 39848040 40378054 40878056 41458043 41818024 42007982 42057791 41957629 41447465 41257439 40837422 40457419 39887453 38977511 38587554 39077680 39307738 39767949 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbs Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Non-zero tornado probs even with limited sun due to backed winds. Key will be initiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted May 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, jmister said: https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0852.html 95% chance of tornado watch... Mesoscale Discussion 852 < Previous MD Next MD > Mesoscale Discussion 0852 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 1202 PM CDT Tue May 28 2019 Areas affected...portions of the Mid-Atlantic into the Northeast Concerning...Severe potential...Tornado Watch likely Valid 281702Z - 281900Z Probability of Watch Issuance...95 percent SUMMARY...Storms are expected to develop this afternoon and will likely become severe. Large hail, damaging wind gusts, and a few tornadoes are possible. A tornado watch will likely be issued in the next couple of hours. DISCUSSION...A belt of enhanced mid-level westerly flow of 50-70 knots is stretching across the Great Lakes into the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast. A shortwave trough embedded within this zonal flow currently entering the Great Lakes region will move eastward throughout the day helping to provide forcing for ascent and strengthen deep layer shear. A surface low is located just east-southeast of Buffalo, NY with a warm front stretching to the southeast through northeast PA and central NJ. This warm front should lift east-northeast with the surface low forecast to track generally eastward. The Cu field is becoming increasingly agitated within the warm sector and storms are likely to develop in the next couple of hours. Storms are likely to develop across west/central PA and move east-southeast during the afternoon and evening into portions of NJ/MD/DE/southern NY. Supercell development is likely and few storms may remain discrete. Low-level veering is better to south/east across the region, but flow/shear is stronger farther to the north. Large hail is possible given forecast MLCAPE of 1500-3000 J/kg and effective bulk shear of 35-50 knots. Additionally, strong synoptic winds and steepening low-level lapse rates, especially where strong insolation occurs, will increase the severe wind threat. Tornadoes are possible as well, especially for storms that exhibit more southeast movement, which will maximize SRH per observed/forecast soundings. ..Nauslar/Thompson.. 05/28/2019 ...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product... ATTN...WFO...OKX...PHI...BGM...AKQ...BUF...CTP...LWX...PBZ... CLE... LAT...LON 39767949 39848040 40378054 40878056 41458043 41818024 42007982 42057791 41957629 41447465 41257439 40837422 40457419 39887453 38977511 38587554 39077680 39307738 39767949 You guys are too fast, or I am too slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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