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21 minutes ago, SalemCountyNJ said:

Will I be wearing shorts and a T-shirt on Christmas?  

 

I hope not. We are due for a cold Christmas. Past 2/3 have been warm

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Here is a look at the GOOFUS model (GFS) for Wednesday morning. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: See anything wrong with the sounding Tony? 

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20 hours ago, tombo82685 said:

I hope not. We are due for a cold Christmas. Past 2/3 have been warm

70 during Christmas week or it ain't the new normal. ;)

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4 hours ago, phlwx said:

70 during Christmas week or it ain't the new normal. ;)

I can't seem to find the official stats (December vs. March) but sadly I punt December (with regards to snow) just because I feel "we" rush the cold and legit snow chances each year around this time. So...if we actually score a snow event or two I count it as a major victory.  I feel like we stand a better shot of snow in March vs. December and by that time I want a quick warm-up and spring. It's a shame for snow lovers with the long nights and low sun angle, a snowcover in December can go a long way.

 

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3 hours ago, Parsley said:

I can't seem to find the official stats (December vs. March) but sadly I punt December (with regards to snow) just because I feel "we" rush the cold and legit snow chances each year around this time. So...if we actually score a snow event or two I count it as a major victory.  I feel like we stand a better shot of snow in March vs. December and by that time I want a quick warm-up and spring. It's a shame for snow lovers with the long nights and low sun angle, a snowcover in December can go a long way.

 

Amen to that sentiment

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22 hours ago, Parsley said:

I can't seem to find the official stats (December vs. March) but sadly I punt December (with regards to snow) just because I feel "we" rush the cold and legit snow chances each year around this time. So...if we actually score a snow event or two I count it as a major victory.  I feel like we stand a better shot of snow in March vs. December and by that time I want a quick warm-up and spring. It's a shame for snow lovers with the long nights and low sun angle, a snowcover in December can go a long way.

 

Ocean temps hurt our chances in early to mid December and arguably help them in March (when sun angle is a quicker zapper of snow but ocean temps are at their low water mark).

Early Dec snow is nice to have and certainly helps the bottom line but climo is not really our friend around here.

All-time (going back to the 1880's), the historical averages for Dec and Mar aren't much different. We're essentially looking at a tenth of an inch in lonnnnnng term climo history.

March: 3.6" (481.9" total)

December: 3.7" (499.3" total)

0 and T years:

March - 32

December - 29

I go back to my working opinion that the snow season in Philly is really 12/15-3/15, with "peak winter" the six weeks from 1/10-2/20 (roughly). Anything before or after is great but I'm realistic that #climo tends to win out more often than not (there are exceptions, obviously).

 

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On 12/2/2017 at 1:50 AM, Mitchg said:

Here is a look at the GOOFUS model (GFS) for Wednesday morning. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: See anything wrong with the sounding Tony? 

gfs1.png

Pretty impressive snow to fall from 16,000 feet and make it to the 41F surface.  Rock On GFS!

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30 minutes ago, phlwx said:

Ocean temps hurt our chances in early to mid December and arguably help them in March (when sun angle is a quicker zapper of snow but ocean temps are at their low water mark).

Early Dec snow is nice to have and certainly helps the bottom line but climo is not really our friend around here.

All-time (going back to the 1880's), the historical averages for Dec and Mar aren't much different. We're essentially looking at a tenth of an inch in lonnnnnng term climo history.

March: 3.6" (481.9" total)

December: 3.7" (499.3" total)

0 and T years:

March - 32

December - 29

I go back to my working opinion that the snow season in Philly is really 12/15-3/15, with "peak winter" the six weeks from 1/10-2/20 (roughly). Anything before or after is great but I'm realistic that #climo tends to win out more often than not (there are exceptions, obviously).

 

It also seems that these December snows (especially before Christmas) end up being alot of mixed bag events snow to something else vs March if its going to snow its more pure snow.  Let's just ignore what happened last March. :unsure2:

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2 hours ago, Rainshadow said:

Pretty impressive snow to fall from 16,000 feet and make it to the 41F surface.  Rock On GFS!

Also, the dryness of the sounding as well, no clouds. 

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12 minutes ago, Mitchg said:

Also, the dryness of the sounding as well, no clouds. 

Details, details, details.  ;)

A couple of good days lately, the 5th place GFS has caught the 4th place GGEM.  If only there were as good as the 3rd place JMA.  :blink:

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10 hours ago, phlwx said:

Ocean temps hurt our chances in early to mid December and arguably help them in March (when sun angle is a quicker zapper of snow but ocean temps are at their low water mark).

Early Dec snow is nice to have and certainly helps the bottom line but climo is not really our friend around here.

All-time (going back to the 1880's), the historical averages for Dec and Mar aren't much different. We're essentially looking at a tenth of an inch in lonnnnnng term climo history.

March: 3.6" (481.9" total)

December: 3.7" (499.3" total)

0 and T years:

March - 32

December - 29

I go back to my working opinion that the snow season in Philly is really 12/15-3/15, with "peak winter" the six weeks from 1/10-2/20 (roughly). Anything before or after is great but I'm realistic that #climo tends to win out more often than not (there are exceptions, obviously).

 

Good stuff. Pretty underwhelming. Climo has spoken.

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Wish the Eagles spent more time practicing football instead of the next edition of the electric slide. 

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1 minute ago, Mitchg said:

Wish the Eagles spent more time practicing football instead of the next edition of the electric slide. 

I figured this one would be tough. Playing in Seattle, night game. They can't beat them in Seattle.

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37 minutes ago, tombo82685 said:

I figured this one would be tough. Playing in Seattle, night game. They can't beat them in Seattle.

I think it will help long term to take a beating and get a reminder it's not easy every week. No margin for error now though. 

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On 12/3/2017 at 7:34 PM, Parsley said:

Good stuff. Pretty underwhelming. Climo has spoken.

Climo more often than not >>> energy sector wishcasters

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On 12/3/2017 at 10:42 PM, tombo82685 said:

I figured this one would be tough. Playing in Seattle, night game. They can't beat them in Seattle.

Eh I just saw this now. A lot of teams don't beat Seattle at home. Wentz won't make that same rookie mistake again.

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10 minutes ago, Qtown Snow said:

Who has a snow map

Friday-Saturday? There is probably a boatload of them on Facebook.

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1 minute ago, Rainshadow said:

Friday-Saturday? There is probably a boatload of them on Facebook.

0z thru 560z , total for the area :) 

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19 hours ago, Rainshadow said:

0-24" from what I saw.

so 0 for Allentown and 24" for Mount Laurel, got it

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