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Wouldnt it be nice to have September in September this season instead of the Augtember of the last two years.

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I'll be down in Charlottesville, VA (if there is anything left after the protests) the last week in August in to Labor Day weekend. I like those temps. 

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I think fall has surpassed summer as my favorite season. Problem is it is somewhat ephemeral, as a transition season there is a pretty limited number of perfect days that are neither too summer-like nor too winter-like.

I always loved the fall, but I used to like summer better, and I always felt a little sad when it was over, like I hadn't made the most of it. But in the last few years, my view is, unless you're at the shore, hot and humid temperatures are more an uncomfortable inconvenience that keep me indoors just like in winter. And so what if the kids are back in school, I'm only off on the weekends anyway. It's not like business slows down much in the summer anymore. The only thing I really miss about summer is the ability to be out on my deck on a warm morning or evening.


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15 hours ago, JimCaruso said:

I think fall has surpassed summer as my favorite season. Problem is it is somewhat ephemeral, as a transition season there is a pretty limited number of perfect days that are neither too summer-like nor too winter-like.

I always loved the fall, but I used to like summer better, and I always felt a little sad when it was over, like I hadn't made the most of it. But in the last few years, my view is, unless you're at the shore, hot and humid temperatures are more an uncomfortable inconvenience that keep me indoors just like in winter. And so what if the kids are back in school, I'm only off on the weekends anyway. It's not like business slows down much in the summer anymore. The only thing I really miss about summer is the ability to be out on my deck on a warm morning or evening.


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18 hours ago, JimCaruso said:

I think fall has surpassed summer as my favorite season. Problem is it is somewhat ephemeral, as a transition season there is a pretty limited number of perfect days that are neither too summer-like nor too winter-like.

I always loved the fall, but I used to like summer better, and I always felt a little sad when it was over, like I hadn't made the most of it. But in the last few years, my view is, unless you're at the shore, hot and humid temperatures are more an uncomfortable inconvenience that keep me indoors just like in winter. And so what if the kids are back in school, I'm only off on the weekends anyway. It's not like business slows down much in the summer anymore. The only thing I really miss about summer is the ability to be out on my deck on a warm morning or evening.


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Once I graduated from college and couldnt go to the beach on an as wanted basis, summer lost plenty of its luster.  I am with you that autumn is my favorite season.

 

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Winter beats fall, but just barely. Love the holiday season, the cold, and snow. Though, I love the whole period from October to mid February. Nights get cooler, changing of the leaves, early sunsets, then goes into cold and snow. 

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As per Tombo, although I would say Halloween to St. Patrick's Day is my favorite season.  I will say fall is preferred if winter is a no-snow, but winter wins if it has a few decent snows (or a supercold arctic blast, cause it reminds me of Iowa in my youth). 

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35 minutes ago, tombo82685 said:

Winter beats fall, but just barely. Love the holiday season, the cold, and snow. Though, I love the whole period from October to mid February. Nights get cooler, changing of the loves, early sunsets, then goes into cold and snow. 

My thoughts exactly. I work long hours (especially in summer) and all the daylight messes with my ability to sleep (though I do enjoy it when I'm off for an extended period). 

Then again, I guess nothing messes with my sleep more than an impending snowstorm, staying up for model runs. 

Love the changing of the leaves and holiday seasons and also, fall = college football season!

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Just now, Rainshadow said:

Central Conus Trof in September?

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Let's lock in that blue from now through march 

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Let's lock in that blue from now through march 




Would be nice to have a fall-like (rather than summer-like) September, but I do hope I can squeeze in a day at the shore on a weekend AFTER Labor Day, I have only gotten to the beach once all summer, can't go this coming weekend and don't want to be down there on Labor Day Weekend, but the rest of September is usually great with warm water and no crowds, if we can get warm enough air temps.


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1 hour ago, JimCaruso said:

 

 


Would be nice to have a fall-like (rather than summer-like) September, but I do hope I can squeeze in a day at the shore on a weekend AFTER Labor Day, I have only gotten to the beach once all summer, can't go this coming weekend and don't want to be down there on Labor Day Weekend, but the rest of September is usually great with warm water and no crowds, if we can get warm enough air temps.


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Normal temps are still not bad given how warm the water is; we've had two years of Augtember that have ruined the month.  We were up in Lake George last September and were nearly pushing 90F.

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This is what my analog package came up with and then bias corrected. 1956,1960,1974,1989,1993( Tony's favorite winter ;)) 1996 and 2000. 

Month

PHL Temp

PHL Precip

September

+.8

Above Normal

October

+1.4

Below Normal

November

+1

Near Normal

Overall

+1.1

Near normal

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51 minutes ago, irishbri74 said:

Sept- march pattern ?

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I'd argue year round pattern

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I just booked the 3rd week of Sept on LBI.  I'm hoping for some warm temps.  I love the fall but the prices at the shore are such a bargain…. fingers crossed for a great week!  Warm it up for the week of Sat Sept 16th!  Cheers !

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I want continuously below normal temps. I burn freely harvested wood in the winter so bring it on. I'd pay less to PECO to cool our modest rancher in the woods in the late spring, summer, and early autumn. Then come mid Sept deer hunting season starts to get the meat for the year...cool and cold gets em moving!

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58 minutes ago, tombo82685 said:

Love to lock that look in for winter

540 thickness (its 72 hours, cant be off by much we are close in) to start meteorological autumn and then LLLV by the GFS...

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